Episode 90: Time Freedom Starts Here: Tori's Beyond Balance Story

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What if you realized everything on your calendar was a choice?

In this episode, I sit down with one of my incredible clients to talk about the moment she reclaimed her time by choosing differently. She shares how she started questioning the default choices she was making, recommitting to what still served her and letting go of what didn’t.

We talk about how waking up two hours before her kids became a gift instead of a grind, and how associating early mornings with pleasure was what finally worked. Now, even with a full plate including 4 kids, she feels like she has plenty of time.

This conversation is a masterclass in empowered decision-making, time freedom, and what it really means to live in alignment with your current season. Beyond Balance didn’t just shift her schedule—it shifted her life.

Enrollment for Beyond Balance is opening soon. Be sure to come to my upcoming class - Plan It, Do It, Done - to learn more. www.themothernurture.com/class

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      You are listening to the Life Coach for Working Moms podcast, the show where we are talking about what it actually takes to make life work as a working mom. I'm your host, Katelyn Denning, a full time working mom of three and a certified life and executive coach. I'm so glad you're here and I hope you enjoy this week's episode.

     Hello. Hello. Welcome back to another episode of the podcast. This is a bonus episode this week where I'm bringing to you a conversation with my client, Tori, who is a member of one of the recent cohorts of Beyond Balance, my group coaching program for working moms. This was a first for me in leading and coaching and facilitating this group program.

    What Tori chose to do with the things she was learning inside this program was a first for me, and I will never forget this session where she came on and announced this big change that she had made in her life as a result of the coaching that she'd received in Beyond Balance.

    You'll have to listen all the way through this conversation to hear exactly what that decision was. But ultimately, what Tori shares is frankly quite inspiring, and it comes down to each of us, examining how we are using our time.

    And asking ourselves the question of whether this is worth my time,

    and seeing each of the things that we spend our time on as a choice.

    In some cases you might examine how you spend your time and feel. Secure in the choices that you're making. You recommit to the ways in which you are spending your time, and in other instances, you might find that you've outgrown or your life has outgrown the choices that you'd previously made, and are you willing to make a change?

    This exercise is a valuable one for all of us to do periodically from time to time, and I hope that in hearing. Tori's courage and the experience that she had in examining all of the things that she was committed to in her life, that you feel inspired to examine your own choices.

    Big and small, they all matter. They all add up to. The time that we have , and how we spend it.

    So I hope you enjoy this conversation with my client, Tori, and if you are interested in learning more about the program that she completed beyond Balance Doors for that are going to be opening next week.

    During my class, plan it, do it done. If you're not signed up for that, you can head to themothernurture.com/class.

    .   Hi, Tori, welcome to the podcast.

    Hi, Katelyn. I'm so excited to be here.

    I am excited to have you. I know those of you listening can't see Tori, but she always has this beautiful, clean, white, neutral background, and I always feel this sense of calm whenever I see you on the other side of Zoom.

    Aw,

    thanks.

    Why don't you, before we get into our conversation today, which I'm super excited about, give us just a quick intro who you are, family, life, work, the basics.

    Sure. So my name is Tori. I am a working mom of four. My kids are seven, five, almost three and 10 months old. I have three boys and a girl.

    , so I work a reduced schedule right now. I support the head of operations at Mass Mutual Ascend. , I'm celebrating 12 years with the organization this year, and I'm really lucky because they really fully support work-life balance and I've been able to build a career there that grows and changes with my family, , as I've added kids each year.

    So. With that flexible schedule, I'm also able to homeschool my two oldest children who are in preschool and first grade, and this is our second year homeschooling. They do, go to a co-op group on Tuesdays and Thursdays. So I get a little bit of a break, but it's nice that it is a drop off program, so I do not have to attend.

    , and then lastly, I also work in wedding and event planning for fun and my free time, and that's in quotes.

    For fun in my free time. Yes. Which I think we'll probably get into that a little bit in our conversation 'cause you have made some changes, had some realizations over the last few months of working together.

    Absolutely.

    I love watching you describe your life a little bit and the four kids, and pausing to make sure we get the ages right, because after one or two, it's like, oh my gosh, I can't even keep it straight.

    I have to think about it. And when they ask me their birthday at the doctor, they look at me like I'm crazy.

    I'm like, which kid is this? What year were they born? I have no idea.

    Yeah, you definitely have a lot, , to manage and in , a different schedule than I think is probably what a lot of us think of when we think of a working mom or working a nine to five, and that you have blended a lot of different aspects together to create a schedule that works for you.

    Yes.

    In this season.

    Yes, and since I have been working for this company, , I have worked a four day schedule for the past 11 years. So I have not worked on Fridays in a very long time, so that has been in my favor, , even before having kids.

    , but. Two years ago, I reduced my schedule a little bit more to half days on Thursdays as well. , and I'm currently not working on Mondays either, so all of my, , corporate work is centralized in the week Tuesday through Thursday, which is really nice. It gives me, , that focus time in that area.

    And then I have. Four days to really focus on everything else, family, life, hobbies, schoolwork for my kids. So it works out great.

    Yeah. And is there, on Mondays or Thursdays, in your half day or Fridays when you're not working, is there a pull to.

    Feel like you need to check your inbox or messages or anything like that? Or are you truly stepping away when you close down, you know, the laptop from work?

    . So in my role supporting an executive, I like to keep a pulse on what's going on. , throughout the week generally I am able to check out there's.

    Very few times where there's, you know, a fire or something where I do need to jump in. Occasionally I'll have a one-off meeting that are outside of my normal hours right now. , but generally, yeah, after my work hours. Are done. I'm, I'm pretty much able to close the laptop and, focus on my family the afternoon.

    And that's definitely what my manager hopes for me, , as well. So that's really nice. She's a mom too. , and so she's just always really supportive of work life balance, and evenings are for your family, so that's great.

    Wow, that's amazing. I don't know that that's the norm.

    Yeah,

    I know.

    And a part-time schedule. So it's truly great that not only you have the support of the person that you directly report to, but that there's a culture or those boundaries are respected for the most part. Right.

    Yeah. And that's something that I realized that I was lucky really early on. So, , not something I take for granted.

    I know that everybody doesn't have that ability. , but it, it's great in my role that I have a lot of autonomy and, , I'm able to get things done. As my schedule allows throughout the week, so

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    And probably why you've stayed for as long as you have. Yes.

    Yes. I absolutely love it.

    Yeah. So. I feel like we're already starting to get a glimpse, but when you talk about homeschooling, , kids of still very young ages, even some of , the things that you do for yourself with the wedding planning or other hobbies, when you think about a day in the life and may, maybe we could look at pre beyond balance, , compared with where things are now.

    How, how would you describe it? I mean, you don't have to walk us through. 30 minute increments of the day. But, broad strokes, , what does that look like or what did it look like before you stepped into the group?

    So, , before joining Beyond Balance, I would say I just had this like, general sense of overwhelm at all times of the day.

    And I, I was thinking back. After I had my third son who was born. Here we go. In March, 2023, after I had him, things felt really easy. At that time. I felt like I had capacity, strangely enough to add in extra things. So that's what I did. I tried to fill up my plate. I wanted to add in something where I could be creative.

    I wanted to, start a side hustle, all these things. And it, it worked out great at that time. But then after I became pregnant with my daughter, , summer of 2024, I just had a hard time of letting anything go that I had added. , but my time and my energy was spread much more thin. So, , on a given day,

    I felt pulled to be at my computer when I had free time. So previously my side hustle. I had clients I was doing design work for, and also some backend admin support. And I have not set any boundaries around that. So. Any time that I had during the day, I felt obligated to be at my computer and getting these things done for clients.

    Mm-hmm. And, , offering a really high output of work even though my day-to-day life had changed and it was much harder to keep up. . I just, I wasn't letting go of the things I had previously committed to. So each day I just felt like when I had time, I had conflicting priorities of my kids who needed me, which they are the first priority.

    But I also had clients who wanted my attention. I had household responsibilities. . And I remember talking to my husband about this program and he specifically said, I think you need to put all of your eggs in one basket and join the program. You need the accountability, , and work through how you can make things easier for yourself.

    So that's kind of a glimpse into what my day to day. Was like before beyond balance.

    Yeah. I remember you describing fitting in that side hustle work in addition to .

    Your two and a half days , of your corporate work that still needed to get done. You were adding in homeschooling. Yeah. Or, or had recently added that in, which has its own learning curve and you were talking about. These really early mornings or staying up late or wanting to do things for the kids with the kids or around the house, but also trying to jump onto your computer and update things or turn things around as quickly as you could, and.

    That graphic that we so often see with a person with eight, 10 arms stretched and holding all of these different things out is what I pictured when you were describing everything.

    Exactly. , and so one of the biggest takeaways that I took from our discovery call and what really pushed me into.

    Joining Beyond Balance. Was, you pointed out that the things that I was overwhelmed with were all choices, and you offered to coach me through those choices and how I could.

    Make decisions that would leave my day to day feeling lighter. , whereas before I felt. Even though I wasn't locked in, I felt locked in. I felt like I was stuck with all of these extra things that I had signed up for. And I, I truly did love it and I wanted to do it, but I just had a hard time with that realization.

    So just changing , the mindset from half two to choosing, , was like the biggest thing for me. So I was super excited to have you. There to help me through those decisions and realizing what I had time for.

    Mm. , and I think so much of the power of those conversations where we examine the choices that we make, it's not that you have to go into that.

    Examination and decide that you're going to get rid of all of these things. You can examine all of your choices and keep them or keep some of them. But when you do that, you remind yourself of what's actually important, why you're choosing this, or what is important about this choice that you're making.

    And if you're going to keep it, you recommit to it, which feels different than. Defaulting to a choice or feeling like you have to, , and I wonder if we can explore this a little bit more too. But I think for you, , from my perspective, a part of that process then was also challenging the belief that I'm locked into any choice that I've made.

    Mm-hmm. When in fact, so many things in life are changeable and we can change them. In a way that is in service to us and to the person that maybe we're changing things on if we're letting a client go or we're making a pivot in some way, but that just because we chose it in a previous season, like you described, you felt like you had the time and so you did add more things on.

    That seasons change and we can also change the choices that we have made.

    Yes. That single handedly was the biggest. Thing for me that came out of beyond balance. , I have had just a complete shift in my day to day after that realization. , and along with , the ability to make choices.

    I realized that. I had the ability to make the choice to start waking up earlier and I had the ability to start, , putting my phone down more and it just opened my eyes to this extra time that I had where I was not making a great choice. , I was really wasting time. , and. All around, I, I've noticed a huge shift in my mindset about what is on my to-do list and the things that I've committed to.

    Mm. Can you think of any examples and , how does that mindset shift change what you're actually doing or how you're approaching or how you're structuring things?

    So when I started this program right before I said to myself, I was, I was like, Katelyn is going to find an answer.

    Okay, these for these problems that I currently have with my schedule and my time. So before we even started, I was like, I know that I could wake up earlier in the morning. I wake up currently when my kids wake up. I know that that is a pocket of time that I could use. Better. So the week before our first call, I made a decision that I was going to start waking up before my kids.

    And, I heard on Instagram, , somebody talking about waking up early, that if you associate it with pain or, , negativity, that it's so much harder than if you would associate waking up early with pleasure.

    So the way before we started beyond balance, I took that to heart and I have been consistently waking up. Almost two hours before my kids, , every single day. , and by choice. So I get to bed earlier most nights, but I have this whole new pocket of time where I can do focus work, I can spend time, , relaxing, drinking my coffee, , sending out emails.

    I mean, it really was a choice. It came down to, it was a choice that I was making, that I was letting my kids wake me up each morning or else I can be proactive. I can get up and I can make the most of. The day early on. So I've been so proud of myself, , with that. And my husband even tells people like, who is this?

    So I love it.

    I have to know. , 'cause you did do that before the group even kicked off. So I wasn't a witness to that shift for you, which I love. And I find so often, right? , when women decide to commit to join the group or to start coaching , you start to feel the shifts. Right away, even before we do anything.

    Yeah. But did you ease into it or did you just decide like, I'm gonna set my alarm for two hours earlier than I normally would and I'm just gonna start tomorrow?

    I decided on a whim, , but tomorrow I was waking up early and it was still a little bit warm out at the time. I think. What was it, September maybe?

    Yeah, yeah. , and I sat outside and drank my coffee that morning and it was still dark out and I sent a Snapchat to all of my family and I was like, I am up this morning drinking my coffee with the stars like. What is happening and talk about

    pleasure.

    Yeah. And so from that day forward, I have consistently woken up every single day since, , and had time even just to myself.

    , some days I don't have a to-do list or I don't choose to work on my to-do list, but I will sit there and drink my coffee in peace and I don't have to, tell the kids like. I have coffee, don't bump my arm or like I just need a second but most days I do use that time for something productive and it feels great and it takes the mental load off of that day a bit.

    So I, huge fan. And yes, it was just cold Turkey. I. I made that shift, so, mm. Yeah.

    I love that. Can I remind you of another example that I'm thinking of that was from later on in the program? And I'm curious what you think about how this relates to some of the mindset shifts that you have had, but I remember you.

    Coming off of a really rough couple of weeks of everybody being sick with something who knows you. I think you had it all. We've, we've all both had it, all this, yep. Fall and winter. And you were coming off of that and I think your husband had been traveling and so you'd just kind of been on lockdown with everyone being contagious.

    And then one of the kids had a birthday, I think. Yep. Yes. And I. Thought even to myself I thought I would be just falling apart at the seams right now. And I'm sure you were in moments, but in that moment you basically were like. We have a party this weekend.

    I'm just gonna do like the bare minimum. I'm gonna order this, I'm gonna phone it in here. Like, it's gonna be fine. I'm just gonna send everybody outside and it doesn't have to be any sort of picture. Pinterest perfect anything and like

    it is what it is. Yes, that is exactly what I did.

    And so that is the other key takeaway that I. Had which was around meal planning, but it was simply like just being okay with getting it done. It doesn't have to be perfect. , there are easy buttons to fall back on. So that's an example where I wanted to make a cake. However I could easily order a Hot Wheels cake. , I wanted to have the party inside and have everything decorated and, it was a 75 degree day that, that day and sending everybody outside on the bounce house, like they had just as much fun and they didn't even know the difference.

    , and so it was really just allowing myself to use that easy button when I needed, and you're right, my husband was out of town until the day before and worked the morning of the party, and, it could have been a much more stressful couple days stressful event, but it all worked out in the end. And the kids don't know any different.

    Honestly. He was just as ex more, more excited about getting a Hot Wheels cake that looked beautiful than my homemade cake, which would've tasted great. But, just being okay with, \. Just getting it done. It's okay sometimes.

    Mm. Can we talk about. Going back to the decisions, the examining your choices, making decisions about what is most important to you in the season, what you actually have the capacity for.

    You made some pretty big choices in just the 12 weeks that we were together. In Beyond Balance, do you feel comfortable sharing any of the realizations and changes that you made?

    Sure. So I'm still helping out, , a bit with wedding and event planning. , but I was previously in a lead role, , when I joined Beyond Balance and the demands of the role were increasing the.

    Scope of the projects were getting bigger. , there was a lot of design work involved, , and my clients rightfully had really high expectations. , but when I looked at my calendar, I looked at the amount of time I had, I looked at the amount of energy I had. , it just wasn't aligned. . And I went back to what you said about it being a choice.

    It was supposed to be for fun. It wasn't for money, it wasn't for, you know, it's not something I needed to do. It was simply for fun. And I realized it was becoming more of a stressor than my creative outlet. So I. Made the decision that I no longer had the capacity to show up in wedding and event planning in that role.

    So I actually plan to still be involved just in a different way in the future because I do really love event planning, wedding and event planning. , and it's something that I have had the ability to do a corporate realm, , for the past 12 years.

    So it's fun to be a little bit more creative. But, , I've shifted into a role that's. , not demanding. I'm not the lead anymore. I can show up for six hours on an event day, have fun, see everything, come together and go home. I don't have the afternoon meetings. I don't have the vendor follow-ups and, , the endless emails and timelines.

    , so I really had to take a hard look at how that was no longer serving me and my family. And the biggest thing for me was. Letting down feeling like I was letting down the clients and the business that I was working with. , but at the end of the day, we talked about it with the other woman on the call, , and you had really great advice that at the end of the day, I'm, I really need to do what's best for me.

    And I had to make the decisions that worked best for me and my family. . So that was a huge shift for me and that set me up for everything else that I was able to do throughout the rest of the program and the time since we've wrapped up and a lot of other things have changed too. My husband, , is in a new role now at his job with a different schedule.

    . And then throughout the holidays and everything that goes along with that, I, it was the right time. It was the right decision. , without you and , the group of women, , I would still be trying to juggle it all. There's absolutely no way I would've had the confidence to step back.

    Mm.

    I'm very grateful.

    Wow. It was so inspiring I, not just for me, but I, I think I could speak for the other women in the group as well, , and maybe you can share your experience as well, but I think that is some of the power of being , in a small community like this, everyone's circumstances are different, their jobs are different, their schedules are different.

    The number of kids that we have is different. But , to see behind the scenes your thought process as you got coached week over week. As you looked at your time, as you thought about what you actually have the capacity for, what's truly important to you right now, what was supposed to be for fun and creativity, what it was costing you in other areas of your life.

    And then to see you have that light bulb moment of. Wow. I, I realize I'm just staying because I feel obligated or I don't wanna let anyone down. And I don't know that that's a good enough reason anymore to Then you came on the next call and you were like, I did it. I'm done.

    We were like, what? I was so happy.

    It was the biggest lift off my shoulders. I didn't realize how much of my time and mental. Capacity that it was taking up. , It really was a lot of work when it came down to it. , I ended up having capacity to put in the effort on planning meals, , and being more proactive about planning for my kids' schoolwork and planning for the holidays, whereas, and.

    Previously, if I had an hour of time, I felt like I needed to be in these projects working. and honestly when it came down to it, I wasn't paid hourly. I was paid for the job, so I was putting in a lot of extra time and I, I just didn't have the time, , is really what it came down to, but.

    It, it, it set me up for success in the rest of the program. It was really the one thing that, was holding me back in tons of areas. So,

    mm. And I'll just reflect back to you or acknowledge you, that at the end of the day. I as your coach, the group of women who are there alongside you, none of us can make those decisions for you.

    We can't even really advise you, it is simply having the space to pause. On what is a very busy, full day-to-day schedule, to ask some of these bigger questions, to sit with some of these tougher questions, to really examine the things that we're doing, why we're doing them, how much time they are taking.

    And then to ultimately reach whatever conclusion we feel like is right for us in that season. Does it serve me? Is it in support of what I'm actually looking for in my life, or is it not? And once you decided that it wasn't. Then it was like, okay, now how do we position this? How do we approach it? How do we deal with and sit with any guilt that we might feel or whatever else comes up as a result of the decision we've made that none of those things are wrong.

    It doesn't mean it's the wrong decision. , it's just something that we have to move through or we get to move through when we make those choices intentionally.

    That was great to have other people. Give their input after sharing my experience. , and what I was feeling at that time, because my husband was in my ear telling me I had too much on my plate, but sometimes I don't wanna listen.

    I don't wanna listen to him. I'm like, I, I'm like, I'm fine, I'm fine. But after the time, tracking and talking with everybody about the stress that it was causing me in all of the areas, . It just was so reassuring to hear from you guys, like, yeah, I think you do have too much going on. And it's not a necessity.

    It was supposed to be for fun and, , yeah, it was just really beneficial to talk about it with the group.

    Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. And for everyone to witness your bravery. Yes. Thank you. Making bold moves and big changes. Know,

    I know.

    Thank

    you.

    Yeah, and I, I love that when you watch someone else get coached through a decision or a choice that they're making, even though I don't know that anyone else in the group was considering, you know, dropping something like this or making a big shift in terms of how they spend their time, it does open up those questions for you as you listen of, oh, well, what.

    What might I let go of? Even if it's just something little, right? Mm-hmm. Like scrolling on my phone too much, or, , staying up too late, or whatever it might be. It does start to open up this possibility in everybody else who's watching as you think about how you might apply what you, Tori, are going through to this other area of my life, because I can see myself in so much of what she's sharing.

    And I got that too from the other women in the group. And at first seeing everybody's introductions in the group, I was a little bit intimidated. Like, you know, we had some, some women who were, in different careers than I was. And, I felt like maybe the things they're coming here for are gonna be much more important than what I am showing up for.

    But even, , during the first call, like we all struggle with the same things. All of us. Doesn't matter what our job is, what our schedules were, how many kids we have, we all were feeling the same way, and we were all able to learn from each other and apply it. To our own lives, which was great.

    Yeah, I love it.

    You said at one point. Something along the lines of, and I'm gonna paraphrase here. You were like, I can't believe I'm saying this, but I actually do feel like I have plenty of time. Like, I don't know that anything has really changed about my schedule. Aside from you letting go at, halfway through or whatever, the wedding and event planning, but you were like, I actually feel like I have the time that I need for the things that I've said are important to me.

    Yeah. . After the lesson where we got our to-do list out of our heads, out of my email inbox, out of my notebook, after completing the time tracking. , and seeing how much time was wasted or not, it didn't even necessarily feel wasted in the moment.

    It just felt like overwhelm where I was sitting there. I didn't know where to start. I was not able to. Identify what needed to be done first. It just felt like everything was coming at me. I needed to plan dinner, I needed to get the lesson done for tomorrow. I need to send out this proposal. You know, like just all of these things.

    , and so centralizing and organizing that to-do list was the first step in making that happen and realizing that I had time and I can pick and choose from my to-do list what fits. In the amount of time that I have. , and so that was a very practical. Tip and lesson that I was able to apply to my life and realize that I was absolutely terrible at that before everything lived in my brain.

    And I let you know that my, , tactic for keeping track of my to-do list was sending myself an email every time I knew. Yeah. Finder, which created another to-do of like cleaning out your inbox. So I have stopped that completely and I have a system now of things that need to get done. And then I have, , a separate list of things that are to-dos that when I have time that are like my Someday list, which is planning out, a.

    Robust list of meals that we can choose from, , that I just haven't had time to sit down and do already, yeah. So, , things just feel more organized and light and when I came down to it, I found that I did have more time and I could be better utilizing the time that I did have by clearing out my mental state.

    So simple. Yeah. So pivotal.

    Yeah. Honestly it, I mean it really is so simple, but, it just felt so real, the overwhelm and not knowing where to start with my to-do list. And it was really dragging me down. So,

    yeah.

    So you're feeling more organized, you're feeling like you have the time that you need, you've made.

    Choices about what you are actually spending your time on that have created more space for you to put toward these other things in your life? Where do you go from here?

    So about two and a half months now, I think is where I'm at with this freed up schedule. . I am just really enjoying right now, being with my kids, spending time with my kids.

    I was able to focus on the holidays. , my husband's working a new schedule now where he is gone a lot of the evenings. I don't have to worry as much about when I'm gonna plan dinner or prepare dinner. I have that time, so I'm just at this exact moment. I am just. Navigating through this new normal of changes between me and my husband, , focusing on the kids.

    And to be completely honest, I really wanna join Momentum, your next coaching program. , and that's not a plug or anything. I truly do want to join it, , and continue and figure out what is next. . Because for so long I just felt like I, I was at my capacity and now I feel like I could find a hobby or I could, work on a, a home project or something.

    So I'm just excited about the future in the year and, We'll see. We'll see. But we'll see.

    Yes. And actually, if I were to prescribe anything for you in this moment, as someone who is a high achiever. Who in the past has seen empty space and rushed to fill it. I think your real work right now is in preserving some of this space, getting comfortable with having that extra space so that you can take a little bit of time to discern and decide.

    What is it that feels exciting or fun or challenging, if that's what you're up for, that I might want to embark on next in my next season? And so for you and probably for a lot of people who listen to this podcast who are very used to having full and busy schedules, I'd say you're right where you need to be.

    And actually, I would challenge you to keep some of that space and not rush into the next thing.

    I love it. You did point that out to me. As soon as that time freed up, I made a comment and I said, now I have time to blank. And I think it was like, start sourdough or you know, something. And you were like, I see that tendency that you wanna fill up that empty time with something.

    So I am, I'm proud of myself for still just. Allowing my day to day to be what it is at the moment and having free time and just enjoying it so. I love it. Good for you. Yeah. I'm just enjoying the Netflix, enjoying the moment. Yeah, yeah,

    yeah. So good. Thank you so much for sharing your story. The, the big changes, the courage, the bravery that it took to really examine the choices that you'd made and realized that you'd outgrown some of them.

    , I hope that for anybody listening again, whether it's a big change in your life or even just a small one, that. Having the space to examine how we use our time, the choices we've made is so valuable. And maybe you come out the other side making a big change like you did, , Tori, or just recommitting to what you're already doing.

    Maybe it's working and we all just need the space to, from time to time, check in and make sure it's all aligned. Yes. Thank you so much, Katelyn. Thank you. All right. I will talk with you soon.

    Thank you for listening and as always, for being a part of this working mom community. You can find everything related to this episode in the show notes at themothernurture.com/podcast. And don't forget, if you're not signed up for my brand new class, plan It Do It Done three simple steps to help you finally feel on top of work and life.

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